Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

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  A Connection Between Sickness and JW Lifestyle

  by choosing life in

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  i've noticed several people on this board mention they have fms and similar type afflictions.

  fms is known to be brought about by physical/emotional stress.

  i have suffered from it for many years.

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  Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

  I know probably dozens of Hohos w/ FMS. No non-Hohos.

  My husband's parents claim to both have it, and they've been listening to the meetings on the phone for 10 years as a result and are avid letter-writers (no D2D). It used to affect only their religious activity, now it prevents them from doing anything--they are both on disability at 55 and 57 years of age. They say it's contagious and then invite people to their home. . .I say it's a crutch IN THEIR CASE.

  For people who actually have this condition, I'm not doubting its existing or criticizing real diagnoses.
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  How Do You Respond To: "Where Else Will We Go"?

  by minimus in

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  when scared jws even think about leaving the organization, they often wonder where they'll go to instead.......any responses?

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  Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

  Daniel-p, you've got that right!
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  Please point out the error in this statement

  by ThomasCovenant in

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  hello.

  my parents worship a god that they believe is going to kill me and their grandchildren.. thomas covenant

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  Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

  Thomas Covenant,

  It sounds like we have the same parents, but you have a different last name? Could that be the error?

  Did I win?

  Catfish
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  What's your present belief ?

  by JH in

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  without attacking anyone for their beliefs, feel free to state what you believe in right now.. personally, i still believe in a higher power, a creator, call him jehovah if you wish, a god that will put things back right eventually.

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  Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

  Grey Matters, don't you remember that there is only one fruitage, and many fruits, lol. Perhaps you were never corrected about that over and over again and once from the platform. . .

  I won't believe in a god or a jesus, or have a bible in my home for a very long time. I am a god-hater for now.
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  Scripturally Free to Remarry?

  by limbogirl in

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  had a discussion with a friend of mine yesterday -- she's still semi in the borg.

  anyway, she says she's free to remarry as defined by dub rules.

  she's divorced, however, there was no cheating by either party in the marriage.

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  Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

  I think the Hoho belief is that 'forgiveness' of an adulterous mate was expressed/proven with sex, that once the married couple did it after finding out about the adultery, that meant complete forgiveness. To me, even when I was younger and a staunch Hoho, this 'scriptural' divorce thing has always been one of the screwiest rules, and the gb all have some serious issues with sex.
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  Who knows me?

  by agapa37 in

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  anybody?

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  Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

  Agape(a?), We're here because we've been MF'd by the WTBTS, and shouldn't have to deal with your MFing deceit. You are right to be embarrassed. PS
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  How do you answer this question??

  by LuciousJ in

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  ok, i'm now da'd as many of you already know.

  it's so fresh that my stomach turns everytime the subject comes up about religion.

  however, something that does puzzle me a bit.......is how do you answer people when they ask you the question "what religion are you?

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  Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

  If people press, and some co-workers have out of curiosity, I tell them I was raised by wolves in the people-eating cult known as je---ah's witlesses and now i'm a religion-hating atheist. If you use this response, you will have to add, 'if you didn't want know you shouldn't have asked and by the way, can you help me find my lost puppy?'
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  When I Say----"JEHOVAH'S WITNESS"----What Do You Think Of???

  by minimus in

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  what do you associate that name with??

  what's the first thing that pops in your head?

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  Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

  living 'pissed ON', rather than pissed off.
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  feeling blah - angry at the cult...

  by EyesOpened in

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  i posted awhile back, been "lurking" pretty much daily over the past months and from reading everyone's posts - i actually have gotten to know some of you... sort of... if you read my profile you will know i was a lifer, pretty much knee deep in the 'borg (picking up the slang.... i stopped cold turkey last fall - didn't go to memorial, special assembly day, district convention, circuit assembly... no field service in almost a year... these are all firsts... and i am 40 years old.... guess what, i have ignored phone calls, messages from the cong elders, everyone was panic'd for the first 3 months or so... then it all stopped... no calls... they have written me off i guess... of course it has helped that i moved 45 minutes south of my congo, back to my home town - where everyone in the congs around here know me... the rumor mill has told them something is up, but since i'm not df or da, they don't know how to act - so they just ignore me.... i just need to vent abit - feeling down lately because of the things i have learned - feeling betrayed by my parents for joining such a cult.

  blaming jw's for ruining my sister's lives, blaming jw's for wasting my life... i want to go to a meeting and yell during the public talk about how foolish everyone is for belonging to this cult... .

  it seems i have accepted the loss all of my conditional friends - hundreds of them in central indiana... i see them at the mall, at restaurants and they look right past me... kinda funny now, but it still hurts when my former friends - even the best man at my wedding - refuses to talk to me or even call to ask what is going on and why i stopped... i am invisible.

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  Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

  EyesOpened, venting is good and healthy. Remember that we were taught to control our feelings, all of them, whatever they may be. . .we were told to suppress all feelings: anger, arousal, confusion, desire, dismay, doubt, envy, fear, happiness and independence, these are things that we should have come to manage and enjoy as adolescents but are now expressing for the first time in our lives. To have the sense to see that and to have this outlet to express how we feel about the WTS, it's natural and good and cathartic. THanks for sharing your history, want to hear more from you!!

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  Just realized I don't know my mother's birthday!

  by Jankyn in

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  i was reading another topic (in the private forum, so i won't disclose), and i realized that i couldn't send my mother birthday greetings if i wanted to--or if she'd accept them.

  i don't know when her birthday is!

  i know it's some time in late august and i know the year.. but we never celebrated birthdays, so i don't know the date.

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  Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

  Hi Crumpet. I started marking in a dayplanner the dates of Birthdays of friends and some relatives who were never Hohos. It's been really delicious, celebrating with people their lives and special days for the first time!